Afghanistan - will the 'endless' war ever end?

The future of Afghanistan

  • A civil war will break out

    • There's a good chance a civil war will follow if all foreign troops withdraw from the country. Extremist will seize the opportunity to fill the political vaccuum. This definetely has consequences for peace and security. Furthermore, many Western investments, aid projects and transfer of knowledge will be destroyed or lost. We haven't been there long enough. ...»
      Natalie Righton Former correspondent Afghanistan Lived in Kabul for three years Bron: Duizend Dagen Extreem Leven 03/05/2013
    • As the war in Afghanistan fades from the front pages in the West as fewer international troops die, the human cost of the conflict is increasingly being borne by Afghan forces [...] That makes civilians the greatest casualties of the war, with four out five of those deaths caused by the Taliban. ...»
      Caroline Wyatt Defence correspondent BBC Bron: BBC/Twitter 14/04/2013
    • Washington fears that if the Afghan presidential elections that are supposed to take place next year fail to produce a legitimate and credible victor. If Karzai decides to try to cling to power, a move that would also be regarded by most Afghans as wholly illegitimate—the result could be the implosion of the (in any case very weak) US-backed Afghan state, and either a military takeover, the disintegration of the Afghan military, or both. ...»
      Anatol Lieven Researcher war on terrorism New York Times Bron: New York Times 14/07/2013
    • According to recent surveys, most Afghans believe the country will sink into chaos and violence and expect that civil war will break out once Western forces withdraw at the end of 2014. For months, the Taliban and various other ethnic groups have been arming themselves in preparation for a fight for power in the country. ...»
      Hasnain Kazim Journalist Der Spiegel Bron: Der Spiegel 24/06/2013
  • One should ask: was it a justified battle?

    • The report reiterated that some U.S. contract money is going to insurgents and terrorists. Less than 18 months before all foreign combat troops are to leave Afghanistan, there are still billions of U.S. tax dollars at risk of being wasted — or worse, funneled to insurgents and terrorists — if the American government doesn’t do more to ensure reconstruction money is spent properly ...»
      SIGAR Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction Report Bron: SIGAR 31/07/2013
    • Only 28% of Americans currently think the war in Afghanistan has been worth fighting, according to a recent poll
      Defense One Bron: Twitter 29/07/2013
    • Once the last British helicopter leaves a deserted and wrecked Camp Bastion, Helmand – to which Britain claimed it would bring 'good governance' – will be a fractious narco-state occasionally fought over by opium barons and their cronies. The war in Afghanistan has cost Britain at least £37bn and the figure will rise to a sum equivalent to more than £2,000 for every taxpaying household, according to a devastating critique of the UK's role in the conflict. ...»
      Frank Ledwidge Author of Investment in Blood Former military officer Bron: The Guardian 30/05/2013
    • (Translated from Dutch) The nearly 2000 Kunduz police men are 'a mouse' compared to the 10.000 gangster of the warlod in Kunduz, tell Afghan to local journalists. The Dutch harbouw illusions about Kunduz becoming a safer place by training police men, given the illegal armed group that are in the majority in the area. ...»
      Natalie Righton Former Afghanistan correspondent Dutch Bron: NathalieRighton.com/Volkskrant 29/10/2013
    • Removing the Taliban, wiping out Al Qaida, education for all, emancipating women and eradicating the opium poppy and heroin trade. These were some of the loftier ideas that were espoused earlier in the war. Now they lie abandoned on the Afghan battle field. Getting home is the only clear mission. The local police men will be fighting for their lives again, as the US drawdown continues. ...»
      John D McHugh Documentary maker Al Jazeera Bron: Al Jazeera 31/05/2013
    • The feeling is more of a job unfinshed, or unfinishable. Western democracies promised Afghanistan a better future. But they will leave the country in a state of widespread corruption and disillusion, with thousands of lives lost, and the Taliban more powerful than ever. Afghanistan, which was once the ideal target, has today become a volcano. ...»
      Al Jazeera Broadcaster Film Afghanistan: Price of Revenge Bron: Al Jazeera 06/05/2013
    • (translated from Dutch) It was partly justified. Western troups have eliminated many supreme Al Qaida-leaders. However there are still many jihadistic groups operating and Afghanistan is still very unstable and unsafe. ...»
      Nathalie Righton Former Correspondent Afghanistan Bron: Nieuwsuur (Dutch) 19/06/2013
    • The west should have tried talking to the Taliban a decade ago, after they had just been toppled from power. Back in 2002, the Taliban were on the run. I think that at that stage, if we had been very prescient, we might have spotted that a final political solution to what started in 2001, from our perspective, would have involved getting all Afghans to sit at the table and talk about their future ...»
      General Nick Carter Deputy commander of the Nato Bron: The Guardian 28/05/2013
  • Peace?

    • My fighters will not seek to monopolise power when foreign troops withdraw from Afghanistan
      Mullah Omar Afghan Taliban leader Via Alan Fisher Bron: Twitter - Alan Fisher 06/08/2013
    • The Taliban have held secret talks with representatives of Afghan President Hamid Karzai to try to jumpstart a peace process that stumbled and stalled at the starting gate, according to Afghan officials and a senior Taliban representative. ...»
      AP Press Agency Bron: ABC News 05/08/2013
    • Peace negotiations can begin only if all international troops pull out of Afghanistan
      Syed Muhammad Akbar Agha Taliban Former leader Bron: The Express Tribune 28/02/2013
    • Afghan President Hamid Karzai will travel to Pakistan this month in the hope of breathing life into moribund peace process with the Taliban and mending a frayed relationship between the neighbours. The role of Pakistan is seen as critical to efforts to get the Afghan Taliban to sit down to talks about ending the 12-year war as most foreign troops prepare to pull out of Afghanistan by the end of next year. ...»
      Reuters Press Agency Bron: Reuters 12/08/2013
  • Regional countries, like India and Pakistan wil interfere

    • In the end, of course, peace will have to be made by Afghans themselves. That in no way absolves either the United States or the regional powers of their responsibilities, for Afghanistan’s dreadful experiences over the past forty years have resulted from a combination of Afghans failing to reach consensus, and outside powers backing different groups and stoking Afghan conflicts for their own purposes. These purposes have generally turned out to be contrary to their own long-term interests—as both the Soviets and the Americans found in the 1980s, Pakistan learned in the 1990s, and India will probably discover if it is misguided enough to try to replace the United States as the chief financial and military backer of the existing Kabul regime. ...»
      Anatol Lieven Researcher War on terror King's College London Bron: New York Times Book Review 15/07/2013
    • As America draws down in Afghanistan, India will inevitably play a larger role there. It already is constructing Afghan-Iran-India transportation links designed to isolate Pakistan. Indo-Pakistani rivalry in Afghanistan will make the post 2014 subcontinent even more dangerous. Pakistan will draw on the aid of its allies, China and Saudi Arabia. Sharif wants to reduce tensions with India and improve trade to help Pakistan's weak economy. Kayani has already warned him to go very slowly with India. ...»
      Brookings FP Policy research centre American Bron: Brookings FP 05/05/2013
    • With the United States turning its back on Afghanistan, the regional countries are back in play and no country has clawed back into the frame as much as Pakistan has in just over the past few months. From the ignominy of the bin laden raid when the world discovered that the world’s number one fugitive was living in relative comfort in a Pakistani military town, to returning to a key role in facilitating peace talks with the Taliban, the security establishment has fought back. As the United States pushes for talks with the Taliban now that it has decided to end the military mission, Pakistan has freed the first batch of prisoners to help set the stage for negotiations and promised to release more. ...»
      Sanjeev Miglani Indian journalist Bron: Reuters 23/04/2013
  • It is up to the Afghans now

    • Afghan forces in the province have "developed phenomenally, not just in capability but also in confidence".
      Brigadier Bob Bruce Task Force Helmand outgoing commander British brigade Bron: BBC 01/04/2013
    • (Translated from Dutch) The base for a constitutional state has been layed. With trained police men and over 50 educated judges, public prosecutors, lawyers and a Faculty of Law with over 300 students. ...»
      Mark Rutte Prime minister Netherlands Bron: Nu.nl 01/06/2013
    • The Dutch government is 'carefully positive' about the training mission of the Kunduz Police. The police and the current judical system in Afghanistan has improved since we' ve come. It hasn't reached the norm we normally see in the Netherlands, but we hope Kunduz can measure up with surrounding countries. ...»
      Roland de Jong Dutch commander Head of mission Afghanistan Bron: De Volkskrant 17/03/2013
    • In my personal opinion I really think those are the guys (trained Afghan police men) who are ultimately make the difference. They now the populist, they now the people that want to fight for them.
      Anonymous American Militair Serves in Afghanistan Speaks in documentary Al Jazeera Bron: Al Jazeera 30/05/2013
    • I think President Karzai himself recognises the need for reconciliation. The challenge is how do you get those things started while you're also at war. My hope is and expectation is that despite those challenges, the process will proceed. ...»
      President Obama President of United States Bron: nieuwsuur.nl 01/06/2013
    • If you look at what the Dutch have done in Kunduz the last two years, we have made the difference and we should be proud of that. Our police training and the follow-up training has been certificated and validated for the whole of Afghanistan. ...»
      Jeanine Hennis Minister of Defense The Netherlands Bron: NOS 01/07/2013
    • No one can predict what will happen to Afghanistan after British, US and other Nato troops end their frontline role there at the end of 2014, and stressed that only the Afghan people can find a lasting solution to the country's violence, corruption and lawlessness. ...»
      Philip Hammond Defence secretry Britain Bron: The Guardian 10/04/2013
    • Provided, then, that the West keeps paying for Afghanistan’s army, the government’s survival is not really at stake. Still, the insurgents are resilient, and they are unlikely to disappear. It may never be possible to end the insurgency without a political deal.
      The Economist News Magazine Bron: The Economist 20/07/2013
  • Role of Taliban

    • I think we should expect (the Taliban) to attack international forces and internationals more generally. There's definitely a sense that the Taliban would like to appear to compel the international community's withdrawal, and certainly ISAF's withdrawal ...»
      General Nick Carter Head of British army Served in Afghanistan Bron: Yahoo/Reuters 16/06/2013
    • The Taliban and a mixture of forces representing the other Afghan nationalities and the technocratic elites of Kabul are permanent forces in Afghanistan. Indications so far haven been mixed. Some members of Taliban told us that they fully recognize that the Taliban do not have enough support to return to a “government of mullahs” and rule Afghanistan unilaterally, and that they will have to share power with other forces. More recently, however, briefings by other Taliban representatives have suggested that strong elements of the organization do believe that they can win an outright victory. ...»
      Anatol Lieven Researcher War on Terrorism King's College London Bron: New York Times Book Review 15/07/2013
    • I think the Taliban has realised much like Western forces there is no military victory, they can't military take Afghanistan back. They are on the back food as military operations are concerned. [...]You can see that the taliban movement have changed their views or principles when it comes to women's rights and humans' right. There is local level evidence, former Taliban members try to set up girls schools. That is a example of change in principles. ...»
      Rudra Chaudhuri King's College London Department of War Studies Bron: Channel4 29/06/2013
    • Unlike most states or political groups, the Taliban aren’t amenable to a pragmatic deal. They are a movement with an extreme ideology and will not compromise easily on their deeply held beliefs.
      Husain Haqqani Pakistan’s former ambassador to the United States Bron: New York Times 27/06/2013
    • Nobody expects quick progress with regard to the talks, but with tentative confidence building measures such as prisoner exchanges, the United States and the Taliban can set the stage for a comprehensive peace process amongst the Afghans themselves. There is also a growing constituency within Afghanistan that supports a political resolution to the conflict. If the Karzai government persists in standing against the tide, his inner circle and presidential nominee will likely be marginalized in the next election. As far as the joint U.S.-Afghan Bilateral Security Agreement is concerned, it is an issue that can be resolved after the new president is sworn in. The U.S. must not allow itself to be blackmailed over the issue by an outgoing president with a narrow support base. ...»
      Simbal Khan Senior Research Fellow at Islamabad Policy Research Institute Pakistan Bron: The nation 29/06/2013
    • Ahmed Rashid says an understanding of sectarian warfare as a tool can only be understood with Al Qaeda and Pakistani extremists seeking to divide Afghanistan and act as a stymie towards the efforts of negotiating with various elements in the country. This assertion is a rebuttal of the claims made by the US that certain elements of the Taliban can be negotiated with. ...»
      Hamzah Rifaat Hussain Journalist Pakistan Bron: The Friday Times Lahore 09/11/2012
  • Future for Afghans

    • The number of civilians harmed in ground battles between Afghan government troops and insurgents rose by a quarter in the first six months of this year, with a sharp rise in the toll on women and children, according to a UN report published as Nato troops continue their departure from the country. Homemade Taliban landmines are still the deadliest threat to ordinary Afghans ...»
      UN Report that charts rising violence Bron: The Guardian 31/07/2013
    • If someone thinks that youngsters have changed, they should think twice. Attempts to alter women’s roles in society remain controversial among the younger generation, perhaps the starkest example of the West’s limited influence as coalition forces prepare to withdraw next year. ...»
      Amina Mustaqim Jawid Director Afghan Women's Coalition Against Corruption Bron: The New York Times 01/08/2013
    • Since 2002, Afghan women found a chance to start getting education and work outside of their houses once again. Whatever their policy is but, we, Afghan women are very grateful of Western ways in Afghanistan. Today, we need to live as global citizens not as villagers! ...»
      Kamilah Ataee Afghan woman Bron: Facebook 02/08/2013
    • The myth that Afghans not accepting modern laws and being "backwards" is a myth portrayed by mainstream media, a simple youtube search of Afghanistan during it's moderate days would debunk this notion rather easily. ...»
      Masih Mas Afghan Bron: Facebook comments 02/08/2013
    • For Afghans, however, the war goes on and is in many respects, escalating. Many civilians are being injured and killed. More than 400 Afghan soldiers and police are dying each month. People are fleeing their homes – almost 60,000 of them in the first six months of 2013 – and many are trying desperately to get their families to safety outside the country. For them, there is no end in sight. ...»
      Heather Barr Afghanistan researcher Human Right Watch Bron: Human Rights Watch 31/07/2013
    • The situation in Afghanistan is becoming so precarious that Afghan diplomats no longer want to return to their homeland. Up to 100 foreign service employees set for rotation back to Kabul from assignments abroad have now defected. ...»
      Hasnain Kazim Journalist Der Spiegel Bron: Der Spiegel 24/06/2013
    • Despite billions of dollars in aid, state institutions remain fragile and unable to provide good governance, deliver basic services to the majority of the population or guarantee human security.
      International Crisis Group Non-profit organisation Bron: World Affairs Journal 02/02/2013
  • Afghanistan will need foreign assistance for years to come

    • The bottomline is simple: Afghanistan still needs the United States and will for at least three or four years to come, to help Afghans master the nuts-and-bolts of running a military: logistics, intelligence analysis, developing the air force. ...»
      Joseph F. Dunford Jr. Commander of American and allied forces Bron: New York Times 29/07/2013
    • Less international aid to Afghanistan and not enough attention on private sector investment could quickly result in pushing middle class families to the brink of poverty again,
      Hamidullah Noor Ebad Director of the National Centre for Policy Research Kabul University Bron: Christian Science Monitor 02/08/2013
    • Afghan National Security Forces are now leading the fight against insurgents in all parts of the country, and they are acquitting themselves well. However, they still need assistance with logistics, air support, intelligence, medical evacuation and dealing with improvised explosive devices (see article). Denying Afghan soldiers this help would damage their morale, while encouraging the Taliban to believe that time is on their side. ...»
      Economist News Magazine Bron: The Economist 20/07/2013
    • Get rich by 2014. It's clear that we have less time now - until 2014 when the foreigners leave, with those people working at NGOs, there will be a lot less work, and a lot less money.
      Fattah Afghan businessmen Bron: Huffington Post 18/05/2013
Mattermap door , Gemma van der Kamp. 16 augustus 2013